This
book is about the political change. The one that has puzzled
me all my life and that’s what I am going to talk about today.
And I want to begin talking about it today by asking you to
think about the poorest county in America, which isn’t in Appalachia
anymore and it’s not in the Deep South. In fact, it’s out near
where I was born, out in the Great Plains a region of struggling
ranchers and dying farm towns. And in the election of 2004,
the Republican candidate for President, Mr. George W. Bush,
carried the poorest county in America by a majority of greater
than seventy-eight percent. Counties in North Dakota or it
was in 2004, the second poorest county, which is in Nebraska,
he carried by eighty-one percent, which would have been an
astounding accomplishment for a Republican back in the day,
back in the forties and fifties. Anyhow, this puzzled me when
I first read about it and it puzzles a lot of the people that
I know because for us, it’s always the Democrats that is supposed
to be the party of the poor, the weak, and the victimized.
And figuring this out, my friends and I think, this is basic
stuff. This is part of the ABC’s of adulthood. So when I told
a friend of mine about that impoverished High Plains County
that is so enamored of President Bush, she was perplexed. And
she asked me this, “How can anyone who’s ever worked for someone
else vote Republican? How could so many people get it so wrong?”
And
I thought her question was apt. I thought this was right
on the money. I thought, in many ways, this is the preeminent
question of our time. This is the question that we all should
be asking because these days, people getting their fundamental
interests wrong is what American political life is all about.
This species of derangement, if you will, this is the bedrock
of our civic order. This is the foundation on which everything
else rests. This derangement has put the Republicans in charge
of all three branches of government. It has elected Presidents,
Senators, and Governors. It shifts the Democrats themselves
to the right and then impeaches Bill Clinton just for fun you
know, just to throw it in as a little bonus. Now, if you earn
over three hundred thousand dollars a year, I want to suggest
that you owe a great deal to this derangement. Raise a glass
sometime to those indigent, High Plains Republicans as you
contemplate your good fortune because it is thanks to their
self-denying votes that you are no longer burdened by the estate
tax or by those troublesome labor unions or by those meddling
banking regulators. It’s thanks to the allegiance of these
sons and daughters of toil that you are able to buy two Rolexes
this year instead of just one. And take that tour of Indochina
by sedan chair. That’s what they’re all doing now. But perhaps
you’re one of those many, many millions of average Americans
that see nothing deranged about this at all. And for you, this
picture of hard-times conservativism, well it makes perfect
sense and it’s the opposite phenomenon. You know, working class
people who insist on voting for liberals that’s what strikes
you as an indecipherable puzzlement. Maybe you see it the way
a bumper sticker I once spotted back in Kansas City puts it
- A working person that supports Democrats is like a chicken
that supports Colonel Sanders! You know, maybe you’re one of
those who stood up for America way back in 1968, sick of hearing
those rich kids in beads badmouth the country every night on
tv. Maybe you knew exactly what Richard Nixon meant when he
talked about the silent majority. The people whose hard work
was rewarded with constant insults from the network news and
those know-it-all college professors - none of them interested
in anything you had to say. Speaking of which, what is that
bumper sticker we saw this morning? Nixon now more than ever!
Fantastic. Maybe Ronald Reagan pulled you into the conservative
swirl with that way he had of talking about that sun-shiny,
Glenn Miller America you remembered from the time before everything
went to hell. Or maybe you were pushed, maybe it was Bill Clinton
who made a Republican out of you with his patently phony compassion
and his obvious contempt for average, non ideal league Americans the
ones he had the nerve to order into combat even though he himself
took the coward’s way out when his turn came. By the way, not
an argument that the right makes anymore.
Anyhow, this great
shift to the right that I am describing is so familiar that
I am willing to bet that every single person in this room has
some kind of conversion story that they can tell. How their
dad, say, had been an Union Steel worker and a stalwart Democrat,
but how their brothers and sisters one day just started voting
Republican or how their cousin gave up on Methodism and started
going to the Pentecostal church on the edge of town or how
they themselves just got so sick and tired of always being
scolded for eating meat or for wearing shirts with Chief Illiniwek
that one day, FOX News started to seem fair and balanced to
them after all. No one knows who Chief Illiniwek is this
is the mascot of the University of Illinois. It’s one of these
offensive Indian mascots and every couple years there is a
campaign to do away with Chief Illiniwek and I swear every
time this happens, you turn on the Bill O’Reilly Show and there
he is getting furious about it. He’s like, “They’re going after
the Chief again, and I can’t believe it!” And ten thousand
new Republicans minted right then and there, every time they
do it.
Now each of these changes is an expression of what I
call in the book, the Great Backlash a style of conservatism
that first came snarling onto the national stage in response
to the parting and protest of the late 1960s. Now while your
earlier forms of conservatism used to emphasize fiscal sobriety,
the backlash mobilizes voters with explosive social issues.
You know the values thing. Summing up our outrage over everything
from busing to blaspheming art, but which, outrage it then
marries to pro-business economic policy. And this is the key.
Cultural anger is marshaled to achieve economic ends and it’s
always these economic achievements that are the movement’s
greatest monuments. I mean the backlash is what has made possible
the great international free market consensus of recent years
with all the privatization, deregulation, and de- unionization
that are its components. It’s the backlash that ensures that
conservatives will continue to be returned to office even when
their free market miracles fail and their libertarian schemes
don’t pan out- and they never do and their new economy collapses
and ruins. It’s the backlash that makes possible the policy
pushers’ fantasies of globalization and a free trade empire
that we then forced on the rest of the world with such self-assurance.
Because some artist decides to shock the hicks by dumping Jesus
in urine, every country on the planet has had to remake it’s
economy along the lines preferred by the Republican party USA.
Now
the great backlash has made the laissez-faire revival possible,
but this does not mean that it speaks to us in the manner of
the capitalists of Old you know the robber barons of a hundred
years ago, invoking the divine right of money. Or demanding
that the low league learn their place in the great chain of
gain. On the contrary, the backlash tells us that it is a foe
of the elite. That it is the voice of the unfairly persecuted.
That it is a righteous protest of the people on history’s receiving
in. That its champions in fact, today control all three branches
of government, matters not a lick. That its greatest beneficiaries
are in fact, the very wealthiest people on the planet doesn’t
give it posh. In fact, backlash leaders systematically downplay
the politics of economics. The movement’s basic premise is
that culture outweighs economics as a matter of public concern.
That values matter most as one famous book title has it. And
on those grounds, it rallies citizens who would have once been
reliable partisans of the New Deal to the standards of conservatism.
Now once conservatives are in office, as we all know, the only
old-fashioned situation they ever seem to care about reviving
is the economic one of low wages and lax regulations. Over
the last three decades, they have smashed the welfare state,
reduced the tax burden on corporations and the wealthy and
generally returned our country to a nineteenth century pattern
of wealth distribution. So this is the primary contradiction
of the conservative movement. It is a working class movement
that has done incalculable, historic harm to working class
people. But the leaders of the backlash may talk priced, but
believe me, they walk corporate. Values may matter most to
voters, but they always wind up taking a backseat to the needs
of money once the elections are won.
Now this is a basic earmark
of the phenomenon. Absolutely consistent across its thirty-eight
year history now. Abortion has never halted. School prayer
never comes back. Hell, George W. Bush abandoned the Crusade
for Federal Marriage Amendment only one month into his second
term. You know, all the while, of course sort of doing the
heroic labors he has been doing on behalf of big business,
the Bankruptcy Bill, Tort Reform, and he’s still promising
to do Social Security Privatization. Now this sort of switch
is vexing for people who want to write about the movement like
me. You know, when I was researching it and trying to understand
it, I kept running up against this and it was troubling. And
you might to expect it to trouble the movement’s true believers
even more. I mean their grand standing leaders never deliver.
Their fury mounts and mounts and mounts and nonetheless, they
turn out every couple years to return their right wing heroes
to office a second, a third, a twentieth try. The trick never
ages. The illusion never seems to wear off. You vote to stop
abortion and you receive a rollback in capital gains taxes.
You vote to make our country strong again and you receive de-industrialization.
You vote to get government off our backs and you receive conglomeration
and monopoly everywhere from media to meatpacking. You vote
to strike a blow against elitism and you receive a social order
in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our
lifetimes. In which workers have been stripped of power and
CEOs are rewarded today in a manner that is beyond imagining.
Like a French Revolution in reverse, in which the workers come
pouring down the streets screaming more power to the aristocracy.
The backlash pushes the spectrum of the acceptable to the right
and to the right and further to the right. Now think about
it for a second. Barry Goldwater, who is considered unacceptably
extremist in 1964 was a moderate by the time he retired from
the U.S. Senate. Bob Dole, from my home state of Kansas, was
considered a right-wing conservative when he was Gerald Ford’s
Vice-Presidential nominee in ’76. Again, by the time he retired,
he was one of the more liberal Republicans left. Eisenhower
and Nixon looked like the bona fide liberal article today,
if you think back about it. But the movement pushes us to the
right and to the right and to the right and now having rolled
back the various landmark economic reforms of the sixties and
many of those of the 1930’s, its leaders today turn their guns
on the accomplishments of the earliest years of Progressivism.
Things like the graduated income tax, anti-trust law with a
little more effort I think. The backlash may as well repeal
the entire twentieth century.
Now as a formula for holding
together a dominant political coalition, the backlash sometimes
seems so improbable and so self-contradictory that liberal
observers have trouble believing it is actually happening.
For the Republican Party to present itself as the champion
of working class America strikes the liberals as such an egregious
reversal of political tradition that they just dismiss the
whole phenomenon. They brush it off. They don’t take it seriously
and they sure as hell don’t want to talk about it. The great
backlash, they will tell you, is nothing but Crypto-racism
or a disease of the elderly or the random gripings of religious
rednecks or the protest of American white men feeling left
behind by history. Now each of these is true to some degree,
but to dismiss the backlash in this way, I think, is to miss
its power as an idea and its broad popular vitality. I mean
it keeps on coming despite everything. A plague of bitterness
that is capable of spreading from the old to the young, from
Protestant fundamentalists to Catholics and Jews, and from
the angry white man to every demographic shading imaginable.
And it matters not at all that the forces that trigger the
original backlash back in the late 1960s have long since disappeared
from American life. It doesn’t matter. The movement roars on,
undiminished. It’s rage carried easily across the decades.
Think about it. The confident liberals that led our country
back in those days are a dying species today. I mean we are
a super country now. The new left, with its gleeful obscenities
and its contempt for the flag is pretty much extinct altogether.
The whole affluent society with its paternalistic corporations
and its powerful labor unions fades further into the ether
with each passing year. And yet the backlash continues to dream
the same terrifying dreams of national decline, epic lawlessness
in the streets, and betrayal at the top, regardless of what
is actually going on in the world.
Now when you see the world
through the lens of CNN, which often happens when you are an
author and you spend a lot of time in hotels, but when you
get your news that way, it sometimes seems that we live in
a country where everything works. Where everything’s in its
place. You know, where junior executives stride confidently
through offices humming with purpose and determination. This
is a new age of reason they tell us. A new economy even with
the websites singing each to each. With a mall down the way
that every week has somehow anticipated our subtly shifting
taste and a global economy whose rich rewards just keep flowing.
But on closer inspection, I sometimes think this country we
live in seems more like a panorama of madness and delusion
worthy of bosh. Of sturdy blue-collar patriots reciting the
pledge while they strangle their own life chances. Of small
farmers proudly voting themselves off the land. Of devoted
family men carefully seeing to it that their kids will never
be able to afford college or even proper healthcare. Of working
class guys in mid-western cities cheering as they deliver up
a landslide for a candidate whose policies will end their way
of life. Will transform my entire region into a rust belt.
Will strike people like them, blows from which they will never
recover. That’s chapter one of the book. Thank you very much.
That’s all I am going to do today.
Question and Answer
Audience
Member #1: Your wonderful piece in the New York View books
this summer, which I gather is the last chapter.
Response:
That was just an essay and they stuck it in the paperback.
Audience
Member #1: That was a wonderful critique of the Democratic Party
for not standing up. Could you tell us just a little
bit of what that said and more importantly, did you have any
response form Howard Dean or any Democrats to that piece? It
was a wonderful piece.
Response: Thank you. That is very kind
of you. I should point out that that last chapter of What’s
the Matter with Kansas? is a critique of the Democrats and
in fact, that’s the next book that I am working on is to extend
that because yes, it is a conservative movement and the conservatives
are in the saddle, but the Democrats have a lot of responsibility
for what’s happened because of the ways they have either encouraged
this, misplayed it, or played right into it. Again and again,
they just walk into the buzzsaw. You know? One of the things
that I’ve noticed about liberals and Democrats is that they
don’t want to take the backlash seriously and I am sorry I
really did not give you enough detail about the precise things
that the backlash believes about how America works but it is
sort of an inverted form of populism where the country is in
the hands of a ruling class that they call the liberal elite
who work there in various ways, through the New York Times
and the courts and so on. And the Democrats don’t like to take
this seriously. What they do is they don’t think about how
they might actually seem like an elite to people. You take
the Democratic Convention last year. Compare the two parties’ conventions.
The Republican Convention was angry, fire breathing. They had
Zell Miller up there for God’s sake, an interesting guy by
the way. And because he’s always talked this kind of class
language. He has this sort of Georgia populist strain to him,
only now it is swung way over to the right. But he is still
using the same language - the sort of classic phenomenon of
the backlash. But then you look at the Democratic Convention
and the speakers were actually forbidden to criticize the administration
from the podium. You know, there is not an ounce of this anger
that you would use to appeal to the kind of people who have
been alienated. You know working class people who vote Republican.
You have to remember that those people, or their parents, or
people very much like them in years passed, used to be Democrats.
And this is why they call it the wedge issue or the various
wedge issues because it peels away or shatters bits of the
old New Deal coalition. So the problem before the Democrats
is how to retain, keep those voters, stop the hemorrhaging
and maybe win some of them back. But they don’t want to think
that way. I mean yes, Bill Clinton was very good. In my opinion,
the way Democrats used to speak to those voters was through
economic liberalism or economic populism, if you will. The
language that those conservatives use is stolen from not just
liberals, but stolen from the left. The old time left of over
a hundred years ago. That used to be a very liberal language.
Democrats have to learn to speak it again and they might be
able to win those voters back. They don’t want to though. They
don’t want to weal out those old weapons because that would
cost them in funding. I mean there is the problem isn’t it?
Audience
Member # 2: Could you talk a little bit more about why the
ranchers in the mid-west if you could help us get
inside their head a little bit to understand when and how they
lost sight of where their interest lies?
Response: It’s a good
question. One of the great regrets of the book is that
I didn’t really understand farmers enough. Farm issues, as you might know, are
extremely complicated. If you did not live in a farm state, you’ve never thought
about them. Kansas is a farm state, but I grew up in Kansas City. It never occurred
to me to think about these things. It’s very complicated so I spent a lot of
time understanding the nuts and bolts of the issues. But I really didn’t get
into the heads of the farmers, which I really should have done more of. This
is one of the failings of the book, but I will tell you one thing and it sort
of gets back to the last question, which is that farmers are in a terrible bind
these days, small farmers, especially in the mid-west. I think the south may
be different, but I do not know. But as usual, you have disorganized. This is
a classic problem in farm country, disorganized producers, millions of them unable
to organize themselves. And you have very highly organized and concentrated middlemen,
your handful of agri-businesses and it’s not even much of a battle. These guys
win. It’s really really simple. And so when you talk to farmers about this, they
all know that that’s happening, they know that it is going on. It’s not a surprise
to them. They deal with these companies everyday. And then you say to them, “Well
if you know about that, why did you vote for President Bush?” as they almost
all did. And they say, “Well what does that have to do with it?” Because in their
minds, yes they are suffering from this terrible burden, but it’s not political.
It’s not something that is in the political realm. Economics has been basically
deleted from that world. This is in, my opinion, largely the fault of the Democrats.
These companies should be subject to anti-trust action, there is no doubt in
my mind. But Clinton wouldn’t do it. The Democrats never talk about it. Kerry
made virtually no effort to speak to farmers. The last national Democrat to appeal
to the farm vote, was of all people, Jessie Jackson back in 1988. Did very well
in Iowa you might remember. Farmers are very open to the kind of economic critique
that I give in What’s the Matter with Kansas?. But they don’t hear either party
making that critique so instead their anger and their alienation is sort of harvested
by the right, in my opinion. It’s a much larger story that that though. It can
go on and on and on.
Audience Member # 3: I really agree with everything you
say about the great backlash and how it works, but I find myself wondering if
every non-rich person in the United States woke up tomorrow and starting voting
Democrat, how much it would change cause the conspiracy theorist in me sort of
thinks that part of this process is a sort of false choice. It just seems that
the Democratic Party is walking corporate as well as the Republicans. Do you
think it would slow down if we voted Democrat?
Response: Yes I agree with you.
It would make some difference, but not a huge amount of difference. One of the
polls that they do every couple of years that always astonishes me is when a
majority of people say that there is no difference between the two parties on
economic issues. I mean there actually is. The Democrats definitely wouldn’t
have passed the bankruptcy bill. The certainly wouldn’t privatize Social Security.
But then on the other hand, Clinton did have a plan for some partially privatized
Social Security. We were only rescued from that by Monica Lewinsky. And you think
of the other things that Clinton did. Clinton basically accepted the Reagan economic
agenda deregulated banks, deregulated telecomm, deregulated electricity, deregulated
farming, and more importantly on anti-trust wasn’t going to enforce anti-trust
the way Democrats had done in the past. And this allows people to have this kind
of perception and there is some truth to it. And yes, the Democrats go to the
same donors that the Republicans do. The high net-worth individuals and the big
corporate players and that’s how they raise their money and those people do not
want the Democrats to become the party of Franklin Roosevelt. They do not want
the Democrats to talk like Harry Truman or something like that. They certainly
do want to see Williams Jennings Bryant back on the national stage, you know.
Anything but that. The other point about this is that Democrats weren’t liberal
and didn’t come up with things like Social Security because they were such smart
guys and all went to Harvard and woke up one day and said, we need to solve these
problems in the country. They did it because they were forced. They did it because
they were pushed by popular social movements; by the labor movement, by angry
farmers, remember they used to have those in the Great Plains, but all these
sorts of movements that you used to have in America and those movements are gone.
So just voting Democratic is not enough. To move them to the liberal side is
going to take a lot more than that in my opinion.