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Steven
E. Rhoads, PhD
Professor,
Woodrow Wilson Department of Government & Foreign Affairs,
UVa
"Taking
Sex Differences Seriously"
June
16, 2006
The
argument of my book; there are two parts. I talk about why
there are sex differences and why we have good evidence
of that, about aggression, nurturing, and sex. And I also talk
about what I think we should do given the fact that these differences
exist. How we should think about our culture differently and
change our policies. And I don’t think that the first
part of that is all that controversial among people who do
research in this area. I know it is in many circles and universities.
One reason why I say that is someone called Janet Hyde, who
is a strong feminist whose work is used in most Women’s
Studies Departments, she wrote a big review essay of all the
evidence we had called the Similarities Hypothesis and argued
that men and women are pretty much alike. But what I talk about
and what I am going to talk about today for example, sex and
nurturing, she didn’t disagree at all. She said the differences
about the interest in casual sex are large and they were close
to very large in her categories and the interest in the differences
in, she called it tender-mindedness rather than nurturing,
are also large, close to very large. So the differences come,
I think, with what we make of these differences and I think
we will make great progress if we can just agree that there
really are fundamental differences and then figure out what
we should do about that.
I begin my book with a horrifying story, which by itself I
think suggests that there has got to be fundamental differences,
which are not controlled by nurture. It’s a case of identical
twins going for circumcision back in the mid-60s. One of them
comes out without his penis and the question is what do we
do with that guy. There was some expert at John Hopkins, supposed
expert who says, well he hasn’t formed his genital identity
yet, let’s chop off his testicles and put a little slit
there and shoot him full of estrogen and testosterone blocking
drugs and he won’t know the difference. We’ll raise
him as a little girl. And for over a decade, this doctor misreported
what was happening. Said it was going well and articles said
little Brenda was remarkably neat and dainty. Well it turned
out to all be a lie. A journalist and other skeptical researchers
found him. Brenda was now called David. Living in Canada. Living
as a male. The adopted father of three kids. And it turned
out that all along, he’d always felt he was a male. At
fourteen years of age, he told his parents, I’m a boy
and at fifteen they told him the truth. They tried to give
him surgeries and turn him back into a boy as best they could.
Anyway, if you look at the story of his life, when he was first
given a jump rope, he whipped people with it. He wanted to
shave like his daddy. He wanted to urinate standing up. The
first time he was put in a dress, he ripped it off. The teachers
in his elementary school said that he had the most pressing,
aggressive need to dominate that they had ever seen in a little
girl. Now John Hopkins, after this story came out, went back
and looked at other of this Doctor Money’s patients.
These had been kids who’d been born without penises and
he recommended the same thing and they tried to turn them into
girls and they found that everyone of these twenty-five liked
rough and tumble play when they were little boys like boys
tend to do and girls don’t. These were ages five to fourteen
when they then went back to see how they were doing. And fourteen
of the twenty-five had already declared to their parents that
they were boys. Being raised as girls, having pumps full of
all this estrogen – that doesn’t happen very often.
I mean, occasionally someone says I want to become a boy, but
for people to be absolutely convinced they’re boys when
they’ve been raised from infancy as a girl is pretty
unusual. It suggests that there’s something happening
before people are even born that gives them a sense of who
they are. What their sex is and most scholars think it’s
testosterone in the womb that does this. A sad story, the guy
ended up, after I published the book committing suicide. It
suggests we get these things wrong and you really can do a
lot of harm.
Now there is other evidence we have that sex differences run
deep. One is other hormonal studies suggesting that the more
testosterone you are exposed to in utero, the more likely you
are to be aggressive and competitive and assertive. And testosterone
also dampens nurturing behavior. Aside from these hormonal
studies all around the world, societies think if you ask them
who is more aggressive in your society, men or women, they
always say men and who’s more nurturing, they always
say women. The majority. Vast majorities. Also, these differences
appear very early in life. Before boys and girls really understand
the gender stereotypes, boys are doing rough and tumble play
and girls are more interested in dolls. It’s not until
about the age of three that people realize what most boys do
and what most girls do. They have a sense, but before that
age, they know what they like to do and they are what the gender
stereotypes suggest. Boys like to play with balls more before
two, girls like to dance more before two. And another important
difference is that at twelve months of age, girls respond more
empathetically to the distress of others through more sad looks,
sympathetic vocalizations, and comforting behavior.
But today, I don’t want to just focus on the argument
of my book. I want to engage people who are most unhappy with
my book. And they are usually women. And they are usually educated
women. Not all of them by any means. Most women I hear from
love the book, but the ones who don’t like the book or
hate the book, are usually educated women who are convinced
that this book and any serious attention to sex differences
will have disastrous implications for women’s well-being.
So I want to address them because I think just the opposite.
I think that giving more attention to sex differences would
improve the lives of men, but it would improve the lives of
women more.
Now I call my opposites, the women who are opposed to focusing
on sex differences androgynous feminists. There’s an
equity kind of feminist who believes in equal rights before
the law, as I do, and equal pay for equal work and so on. But
the androgynous feminists, I think they dominate the National
Organization for Women and the Women’s Studies Departments,
and most of the Humanities, in large parts, the Social Sciences.
I think they think that aside from the obvious anatomical differences,
that there are no fundamental differences between men and women.
And those that seem to exist are the result of society, how
we bring up boys and girls, rather than a result of nature.
I want to focus today on sex and nurturing of children. I think
that the androgynous feminist position goes something like
this – the double standard of sluts and stunts has for
two long restricted women’s exploration of their sexuality.
Women’s sexual liberation is an important part of women’s
liberation more generally and young women should condition
their consent to sex on pleasure and desire. As one influential
book puts it, “Have sex for the sheer pleasure of it.”
On children, androgynous feminists say that women have to bear
them, but men are just as good at bringing them up and that
in a just world, men and women should be equally responsible
for childcare and for work outside the home. Androgynous feminists
are adamant about this because they think that only an equal
division of all labor will enable women to have equal power
and money with their husbands or with men. Now my critique
of this outlook begins with the assumption about what most
women care most deeply about so I am going to focus on most
women. As I’ve mentioned, there are different kinds of
women. I explore this at length in my book. Ones who are more
career-oriented, who are more assertive and aggressive, who
are less interested in babies and dolls when they are young.
On average, they have been exposed to more testosterone. They
are different for most women. I want to focus on most women
and what I think they care most about and I think it’s
emotionally close relationships.
In his book, The Essential Difference, Simon Baron-Cohen notes
that one-day old baby girls look at a picture of a human face
longer than one-day old baby boys do. And similarly, one-day
old, if you play a recording of another baby crying, both baby
boys and baby girls will cry, but baby girls cry longer. Now
Cohen uses this in a lot of other evidence to argue that women
have a more empathizing brain than men do. And that females
of all ages seem to care more about other’s well-being
than males do. Now boys have a passion for things and they
tend to be very tunnel directed. If you raised boys, you probably
know they change these things. It can be dinosaurs and then
it’s baseball statistics and soccer or computers. It
doesn’t have much to do with their parents so they don’t
know where they get it from. All they want to think about for
a year or two is those things. And boys tend to get together
with other boys who share their interest in those activities
that they’re interested in. Girls get together, not so
much for the activities as for sharing confidences and long
self-revealing conversations. Putting arms around each other.
Girls and women most of all want connection. And when they
go through puberty, estrogen makes women more social. They
spend more time with other people. Testosterone makes men less
social. They spend more time alone.
If you look at male prisons and female prisons, it’s
quite dramatic. Male prisons are all about domination and aggression.
Female prisons, in large proportions of them, set up artificial
families. These women miss connections so much that they say
you be the uncle, you be the aunt, you be the kid, I’m
the father, you are the mother. And they have pseudo-families
in the prisons.
Another sign I think of women’s deep need for connection
is if you look at unmarried, childless women. This group you
might think, these are the ones who are the careers. And they
are really different and one of the reasons they maybe didn’t
get married is that they didn’t want a family to interfere
with their careers. But if you ask them, what is the most important
thing for your happiness, of unmarried, childless women, five
times as more say something to do with connection. Thirty-one
percent say my relationship with my mother is most important
to my happiness. Twenty-two percent say relationship with my
friends. Eleven percent say my career is most important to
my happiness.
Okay, with this background then, let’s turn to sex. When
girls go through puberty, the combination of hormones and their
longstanding desire for strong, intimate relationships often
leads them to be boy-crazy. As young teenagers they often spend
hours reading romantic fiction or playing board games about
dating and boys. But girls are more interested in relationships
that may lead to sex whereas boys are more interested in the
sex. And in and out of marriage, women usually say they engage
in sex to share emotions and love. Men give reasons that are
much more narrowly physical – need, sexual gratification,
sexual release – these are the reasons they say they
engage in sex. And men are much more interested in sex with
a variety of partners.
Now what happens? Sociologist Elijah Anderson describes an
inner-city culture where the young girls have a dream, a dream
of loving, providing mates, while their often older partners
are playing a game in which sexual conquest are the prize.
Female researchers describe in the most unlikely places, in
British street games or in African tribes, the same kind of
phenomenon. Of young teen girls looking for a providing, protecting
older guy. And one of these female authors says that, “It
appears that there is a period of mating optimism among young
adult women, which may be a regular feature of female psychology.” Now
it seems to me that Women’s Studies Programs and Women’s
Centers should alert young women to the fact that young men
are frequently more interested in sex than in the relationships.
I don’t think they do because they want to say that everybody
is the same and women should be the same with their sexuality
that men are, but they are not the same. The surveys report
that seventy-one percent of teenage girls report being in love
with their last sexual partner and forty-five percent of boys
do and teen girls are much more likely to regret their previous
sexual experiences than boys are and much more likely to say
they wish they waited longer to have sex. Several studies have
also noted the precipitous rise in depression rates among young
teenage females. And the depression is often preceded by the
breakup of a sexual relationship that the girl at least saw
as romantic.
Now the real world of middle school girls can be a nightmare.
Most of you know Montgomery County, it’s in Maryland,
suburb of Washington, a high income county. This is from a
school there. At this middle school, and I am at told this
is not unique by any means these days, at this school, thirteen
year old girls get casual, routine invitations to have sex
all day long. Most of the boys ask. The typical query is, “When
are you going to give me head?” A Washington Post article
reports that some of the requests go beyond words. The reporter
asked one girl to keep a little diary and the worse of what
she entered was she was kneeling to get books from her locker
and a boy came up and sticks his crotch in her face and says, “Oh
yeah, you’re best!” Now what do you say to a boy
who does this? I don’t think you can say much if you
assume boys and girls are the same about sex. If you have an
androgynous understanding of sex. If you say to this boy, well
how would you feel if she did this to you, what is he going
to say? “Great! Do you think you could get her to?” It’s
not the same at all. Girls find it degrading and threatening
in some way. Boys don’t. They just think it’s good
fun. It’s just another kind of horseplay. Why make a
big deal about it? We are not going to get anywhere in changing
it unless we say boys and girls are different about this sort
of thing. Girls are more vulnerable in sexual matters.
Okay. Now let’s go to college. John Townsend is an anthropologist
who surveyed several hundred students about sexual relationships,
romantic relationships and then picked out the fifty most active,
twenty-five girls, twenty-five boys who had the most sexual
partners and focused in on them. And he asked the following
question –whether they agreed with this or disagreed. “Even
if I think I don’t want to be emotionally involved with
a person, if I have sex with him or her a few times, I begin
to feel vulnerable and would least like to know that he or
she cares for me.” Fifty percent of the males disagreed
with this statement. Four percent of the females did. So fifty
percent of the men don’t care if their sexual partners
care about them. Now he then gives a full description of the
five most sexually active females. Every one of them is competitive,
aggressive, wants careers, has always loved to play boy sports
and so on. Has absolutely no principle or religious objection
to casual sex. Every one of the five has found though, despite
their liberated attitudes that their emotions get in the way
of casual sex and after a couple years of it, they decide it
just doesn’t work for me. That it’s just an individual
thing. They are not interested in sleeping with men who are
uninterested in relationships.
Next I want to talk about cohabitation which is what women
have to look forward to after college these days and just one
of many studies reveals that women tend to see living together
as a step towards marriage, while men regard it as a sexual
opportunity without the ties of long-term commitment. Surveys
indicate that since the sexual revolution, women have begun
to think worse of men. I’ll just give you one example.
This is pretty dramatic because it’s a guy who wrote
a book after interviewing two thousand women and two thousand
men about romantic and sexual relationships. A reporter asked
him what’s the big difference you found. One word – rage.
Lots of women feel rage towards men. Men don’t feel any
rage toward women. If you look at any big bookstore, you’ll
find rows of books aimed at women with titles like How to Heal
the Heart by Haiti and The Women’s Book of Revenge, which
among other things says destroy his stuff. It seems to me that
if we stop telling women that men and women have no significant
differences between them in libido and taste for sexual variety,
women will be better able to protect themselves. We will get
less female depression and less rage towards men.
Now marriage has a special appeal to women because women both
get men who are willing to commit and a greater opportunity
for strong relationships with babies as well as husbands. And
women want babies and many who want them are not getting them.
About eighteen percent of forty-year old women have no children
and this about double from the 1960s, a recent Gallop Poll
found that seventy percent of them wish they had had children.
Of those undergoing infertility treatments, fifty percent of
women, but only fifteen percent of men say it’s the most
upsetting experience of their lives. A Harvard Medical School
Study found that women undergoing infertility treatment had
levels of depression comparable to patients with AIDS and cancer.
Now it seems to me androgynous feminists are unconcerned. Many
highly educated women overestimate their chances of getting
pregnant after age forty. They see examples of it and don’t
realize how unlikely it is. As a result, the American Society
for Reproductive Medicine wanted to place public service ads
in shopping malls that could have helped correct this misinformation.
The ads were designed to enable women make reproductive choices
based on the facts and particularly wanted to tell people how
to avoid infertility. The opposition of the National Organization
of Women aborted the whole program. The ad that particularly
angered NOW contained the following message: Advancing age
decreases your ability to have children. NOW said that ad and
the other ads were scare tactics. They further argued that
the ads sent a negative message to women who might want to
delay or skip childbearing in favor of their career pursuits.
Androgynous feminism is no more help to women who get the children
they want. Women have lots of the nurturing hormone Oxytocin
and little of the nurturing –suppressing hormone, testosterone.
They truly like to spend lots of time with their children.
If you look in families where mothers and fathers as a matter
of principle, try to take equal care of the kids, and interview
the fathers and the mothers, they both say there are emotional
differences. The mothers are emotionally more connected to
the kids. They feel separation from the kids to be more disagreeable,
anxiety-provoking.
To strike the emphasis on androgynous roles in Sweden, if you
look at fathers going back to work after taking leave and mothers
going back to work after taking leave, the mothers feel much
worse about it than the fathers do.
Another sign of differences in this nurturing instinct for
small children. Men usually do the fun stuff with kids. This
is a great complaint at large. That they want to play with
them and they want to read a book sometimes, but what about
all the other stuff that you have to do when you have a kid?
They don’t like to do that much. So you might think therefore
that if you asked mothers and fathers how much they liked parenting,
the fathers would say they liked it more because they are doing
only the fun stuff and women are doing the fun and no-so fun.
That’s not what we get. Mothers say they like parenting
more than fathers say they like parenting. After they have
kids, most women would prefer not to work or to work only part-time.
They are typically less willing than men to spend their whole
days away from their children. They want to see the first steps,
hear the first words. They feel guilty and anxious if they
spend ten hour days away from their children. And this is true
even if the kids are older, middle school and high school.
I will just summarize quickly several studies of this. One
study of sex differences and psychological stress among married
couples notes that for wives, but not husbands, it is especially
stressful to be married and employed with minor children. A
second study of mothers finds that those who work have more
stress than those who don’t. A third study also of mothers
finds that those who work are far more conflicted about working
than homemakers are about staying at home. And working moms,
and these are the author’s words, “pervasive, internal
struggle” was as common with those with teenagers as
those with those with preschoolers. Even those with fully supportive
husbands who completely supported their wives’ careers
often were highly conflicted. A fourth study shows that working
moms with minors at home have levels of Cortisol, indicating
high stress – more of that than do other women without
kids doing the same jobs. This result again is obtained independent
of how much support they get from their husband or other social
support.
Now I have lots of moving stories, anecdotes in the book and
cartoons. I try not to make it too dry. But the anecdotes I
pick are examples where you might not expect these phenomenon
to appear in these kinds of women. I will give you just one
of them here. Madeleine Kunin was a two-term governor of Vermont
while she had young children. And she writes an autobiography
after finishing her last term, in which she says the following, “At
least once a day I would feel a stab in my chest thinking I
should be at one place while I was at another. There was no
cure for the anxiety. All I could do was not to let it overwhelm
me. Not to let it pull me down, but to carry it as gracefully
as I could.”
One answer to the torment that so many mothers feel would be
high quality part-time jobs. Women these days often complain
about why aren’t there better part-time jobs. Career
paths are too rigid. But we shouldn’t forget that in
1989, almost a whole generation ago, a major figure, Felice
Schwartz, proposed an answer to this problem. She wrote in
the Harvard Business Review and she said we should have two
different tracks in business. She was head of Catalyst, an
organization whose only purpose is to advance the interests
of women in business. She said we should have two tracks – a
career track and a career and family track. Women on the career
and family track wouldn’t have to put in as long hours,
but they could stay connected to their company, connected to
their work and they’d settle in the median term for middle
management, but they’d be happier with this mix than
they are now. And it raised outrage in letters to the editor.
One of the most greatest flurries ever from women who said
this would be a disaster for women. And that’s an organization
for women and the National Women’s Political Caucus and
several other groups had a jointly offered letter where they
said this would be a disaster. This would be a disaster even
if you make it gender neutral. Even if you said men could go
in the career and family track too if they want. But still
they said, women will be the ones who take it, everybody knows
that and therefore it would come to be a mommy track and it
would cut off women’s employment opportunities. They
went on to say that if any business sets up a career and family
track, we will sue you. And they also said why did not Felice
Schwartz, talk about why men didn’t do half the childcare
instead of coming up with this ridiculous proposal.
Now androgynous feminists want women to be as likely to rise
above the glass ceiling as men are. That’s the reason
they hit the umbraes at these things. Whether it’s how
to make people pregnant or how to have a family and career
track. And they realize that if you go in these directions,
women are not going to be as likely, proportionally, to rise
above the glass ceiling. To get the real powerful jobs in society.
But my own research, even in a very androgynous group, the
national survey of women assistant professors with kids under
two who are trying to get tenure and their opinions about androgyny
and who should do everything are very liberated. Men and women
should do everything equally and so on. But when we asked who
does each of these twenty-five tasks more often in your family,
the female professors on average said they do every one of
them more and the male professors said they do every one of
them less. Even buying the groceries for the kids. Anything
you can think of, the women are doing more. But also interesting,
we also asked how much do you like doing each of these twenty-five
tasks. The women liked doing twenty-four of the twenty-five
more than the men. A pretty liberated group. Androgynous feminists,
most of them with Ph.D.’s who want to get tenure. Are
pressed to get tenure and if you ask them do you like doing
these tasks, even changing diapers, more of them said they
liked it than disliked it. Not the men. So it seems to me that
if we ever came up with a world in which men and women did
everything equally, at home and at work, neither one of them
would be as happy as the other ones could be. Women who work
thirty-seven hours a week full-time on average. Full-time worker,
you know is anything over thirty-five. Women work thirty-seven
hours a week and men work forty-three on average. If you ask
who’s more unhappy about the long hours, it’s women.
It’s because they want, they would prefer, part-time
work. And largely because they want to spend more time with
their families.
It seems to me that our culture and our policy would become
more female friendly if we realized these are deep seeded sex
differences. And not only that, but there are different ways
to think about power. Power in throwing your weight around
and being the best at writing wills and therefore making a
lot of money. But it’s also, these were the words of
another author that I really think are great, she said, “A
lot of women think of power in a different way. They think
of power as creating relationships, binding families, and building
societies.” Now if one of the sexes is better at that,
think about it – creating relationships, binding families,
and building societies - that’s a kind of power. It’s
a kind of power that seems to be quite admirable and we should
give it more respect. Thank you.
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