Fine and Performing Arts
Commission
Minutes
October 19, 1999
Attendance: Bob Chapel (Chair), Samantha Beer, Nancy Brockman, Marcia Day Childress,
Dean Dass, Angela Davis, Ed Davis, Lear DeBessonet, Johanna Drucker, Jane Ford, Joan Fry,
Larry Goedde, Jill Hartz, Richard Herskowitz, Shona Hunter, Denise Karaoli, Judith
Kinnard, Phyllis Leffler, Marita McClymonds, Clo Phillips, Adam Popp, Jack Robertson,
George Sampson, James Scales, Judith Shatin, Bill Sublette, and Beth Sutton.
Mr. Chapel gave the commission an update on exploring site options for the future
performance hall. A potential donor has expressed interest in the project. The President
needs a well-documented proposal that will address programmatic, logistical, and master
planning issues, and he needs a reliable estimate of what it would cost to build it. A
small group is working to determine what the hall should look like and where it would best
be located. The group is in agreement that the hall should address musics needs; it
should have a minimum of 1500 seats; it should have first-class acoustics; and its design
should accommodate a variety of uses and include a fly, wings, a sprung floor, dressing
rooms, a scene shop, and costume area. The group is looking at a site near Clemmons
Library and the parking garage. A site on Emmet Street near University Hall has also been
suggested. Discussion indirectly related to the location of the performance hall has
suggested the possibility of locating the fine arts library near Alderman and Clemmons
Libraries, and housing the music department in a building adjacent to the performance
hall. It is not clear that there is sufficient space to accommodate all these buildings.
Further, removing the music department from the other fine and performing arts weakens the
concept of creating an arts precinct that would encourage the engagement of students and
faculty in learning, projects, and conversations that cross the arts disciplines.
Marita McClymonds said that the music department has four goals: 1) to keep the music
program together, i.e., do not separate performance space from the intellectual space, 2)
as a part of the College of Arts and Sciences, the music department must be within ten
minutes of the center of Grounds, (i.e. an Emmet Street location is too far removed from
Central Grounds), 3) music needs major parking facilities for performances, and 4) music
wants to be part of the arts community and needs the music library located with the music
department.
Judith Kinnard expressed her surprise about the discussion of a possible new site for a
performance hall. No one in the School of Architecture has heard about this. She urged
better communication and requested that Karen Van Lengen, the new dean, be sent copies of
the Commissions full minutes. She asked that the master plan be studied carefully,
lest we lose sight of the hope to keep all the arts together. Mr. Chapel added that Dean
Leffler had said he had little information about the work of the commission. The
commission members agreed that the full minutes should be sent to all deans.
Clo Phillips, who is heading the group that is exploring potential sites for a
performance hall, reassured everyone that nothing is firm and no decisions have been made.
Mr. Chapel gave commissioners copies of his notes from the commissions October
8-9 retreat and of his report to the Board of Visitors on October 15. He emphasized that
his notes from the retreat were very sketchy, and because his talk to the Board was
limited to seven-minutes, he could not include everything. He explained that the chairs of
the four Virginia 2020 planning commissions (Science and Technology, International
Activities, Public Service and Outreach, and the Fine and Performing Arts) summarized the
activities of their commissions to the Board members. Mr. Sweeney, Vice President for
Development, followed with his report to the Board saying that the end of the current $1
billion capital campaign does not mean that fundraising will end. It will be necessary to
continue to raise funds for the programs and facilities that will be recommended in the
plans developed by the four commissions.
Mr. Chapel said he had reviewed the mission for the commission for the purpose of
gauging progress, and concluded that the work is about one-third completed. The group has
reviewed the past and current programs, department by department. Now the commission must
turn to current and future programs, define the goal, and determine what it will take to
achieve the goal. Then it must build a compelling case for fundraising in support
of the fine and performing arts at the University envisioned for the future. Mr. Chapel
suggested that at this point, the commission might work most effectively in small task
groups.
Mr. Chapel asked commission members to comment on the ideas they heard at the retreat.
Everyone agreed that one overriding message was the desirability for interdisciplinary
approaches to the arts as a whole. A second point that everyone heard was the need to
raise endowment to operate any buildings we construct. Such endowment should be one-half
the cost of the building. Commissioners agreed that we should stop thinking in terms of
departments, but rather to think more programmatically about the arts in their entirety.
Look at projects and see where there are common approaches, common interests, common goals
regardless of who or what department.
Speakers at the retreat told us that if you have good people and excellent facilities,
lots can happen. We need to move forward, and while it is wise to plan, planning can be a
way not to move forward. Likewise, benchmarking can be fine, but it does not enable us to
do really creative things. Phyllis Leffler suggested taking ideas from the retreat, but
also looking carefully at ourselves and asking who is innovative. We will benefit by
thinking of new ways of putting people together.
Lear DeBessonet asked what can students do to promote the work of the commission. She
has contemplated conducting a survey, writing an article for the Cavalier Daily,
organizing a festival of the arts, or doing something else to bring the arts more to the
attention of the University community. Mr. Chapel responded that he thought a survey of
student interest in the arts would be useful. A survey could help us learn whether the
arts are offering students what students want, or what the faculty wants. Ms. DeBessonet
noted also that without performance space available to students, the University does not
encourage students' creativity.
Shona Hunter agreed about the lack of performance space and asked where space for dance
fits into the facilities planning. She feared that even though the proposed performance
hall will have a sprung floor, it will not be available to students for dance. The dance
club is not a formal program, and as a club, dance would have to pay to use the space. It
cannot afford to pay. Bob Chapel and Marita McClymonds reassured Ms. Hunter that dance is
very much a part of the discussions. Both music and drama plan to include dance studios in
the facilities they hope to build.
In further discussion of the retreat, Angela Davis suggested that common goals of the
arts departments should be the guide to developing a curriculum with common purposes. The
arts need to decide on their focus and look for relationships in goals. Out of that
curricular planning can evolve a plan for proximity of students and programs and
facilities.
Dean Dass said that the visual arts start off with basic drawing and then build toward
painting, print making, sculpture, photography, etc. The visual arts become increasingly
interdisciplinary at advanced levels, and it would make sense to look at joint
appointments between art and architecture, and art and the new media studies program, for
example.
Phyllis Leffler responded that joint appointments make sense on an individual basis,
but wondered if such appointments rather than being made on an ad hoc basis could
not be fully programmatic, like the performance program at NYU. Dean Dass said that the
visual arts do not fit into standard program descriptions. Marita McClymonds cautioned
that departmental structures do not encourage team teaching, and said that team teaching
would require additional faculty
Bob Chapel agreed that our thinking needs to break out of the box; we should get
together and commit to doing new things. The interdisciplinary task group (a subcommittee
of the commission) would be a logical group to investigate projects that bring people
together on projects, or shared goals, outside the department structure.
Johanna Drucker observed that new media may provide creative ways to bring the arts
together. She suggested that the commission take a systematic look at projects and build
the scheduled fall 2000 fine and performing arts conference around projects. Rather than
the usual "talk at" conference, this conference can be lively and involve
participants who have a project in which their energy is invested. The conference would
bring in experts to demonstrate how to take the projects we are doing to the next step.
Marcia Day Childress suggested also involving students to define arts projects and lead us
in new directions. Clo Phillips added that a core group of people in the University and
the community are already enthusiastic about the arts. We need to figure out how to spread
interest in the arts beyond this group by showing how the arts contribute to learning and
society, and build a broader base of support for the fine and performing arts.
Bob Chapel announced that the next meeting would be on November 2. At that meeting he
will present a plan for work in sub groups of the commission.